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Who is the elfiest/bashiest etc. of all?
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 10:25 pm
by Gandalf
In the ukbbl, some divisions run a series of side competitions e.g. Elfiest and Violentist teams.
Every match day, the amount of (for Elfiest) successful dodges, GFIs, TDs, Passes, etc is added up (with scores). Or for Violentist, the amount of KOs, injuries, deaths etc, with scores assigned.
Regardless of the side competitions, being able to compile and export this data would be nice (rather than trawling through all the BBM reports).
See above comment from la. Sounds fun. I'm just starting to do some work on players now. So we can assign scores like this to players, as well as to teams. I'm thinking 3 categories at the moment.... elfiest, bashiest and most-bashed.
Currently I only have access to the stats the client offers natively, that is to say (deep breath...) touchdowns passes catches interceptions knockdowns tackles stunned KO's injuries killed and meters run/passed. Eventually in v2 I can add in other things if desired based on the dice rolls, such as GFI's, Really Stupid etc (a "Most Stupid" table could be amusing!!).
So.... do we have any better names for these titles? And how many points should players/teams get for each? This may be some way from being implemented but it definitely can be implemented, so why not start talking about it now?
PS Since la started this, you may be interested to know one of the most bashed players I can see in the data is a Thrall by the name of Gorgonzola who has been knocked over 33 times resulting in 18 stuns, 7 KO's and 8 injuries! A true team player.
Re: Who is the elfiest/bashiest etc. of all?
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 10:00 am
by lawastooshort
I'll PM you Gandalf.
Re: Who is the elfiest/bashiest etc. of all?
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 11:02 am
by DaigaroOgami
Pfff, that's nothing compared to Percy.
He's died 4 times in the name of PirlOrc's greatness.
THATS commitment.
(Looking forward to this BTW).
Re: Who is the elfiest/bashiest etc. of all?
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 11:24 am
by lawastooshort
On a related note, does that bashing include being eaten by vampires?
Re: Who is the elfiest/bashiest etc. of all?
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 12:59 pm
by Gandalf
Erm.... I don't think so. I'm fairly sure that "knocked over" does mean "had to make an armour roll as a result of a block" and that the ko/stun/injury total should equal that, which it does. Certainly that's what I would want it to be for the purpose of comparable stats. I'm not sure what BBM does, I'll have to check.
I'll definitely investigate though. Storing blood lust stats would be nice.
I'll do another post re: scoring later...
Re: Who is the elfiest/bashiest etc. of all?
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 5:00 pm
by lawastooshort
So... Gorgonzola. 33 knockdowns and every one broke armour? Is that right?
Or armour was broken 33 times?
Re: Who is the elfiest/bashiest etc. of all?
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 5:17 pm
by Gandalf
I'm fairly sure that "knocked over" does mean "had to make an armour roll as a result of a block"
Re: Who is the elfiest/bashiest etc. of all?
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 6:08 pm
by lawastooshort
But that's crazy. Even with AV7! Every one broke armour!
I'm very tired so may be missing something here.
Re: Who is the elfiest/bashiest etc. of all?
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 8:43 pm
by Gandalf
Errr.....
I mean
I'm fairly sure that "knocked over" does mean "failed an armour roll that happened as a result of a block"
Sorry! I've put this definition on the website so so I will clarify/change it there too.
I don't think "player got knocked over but passed armour roll" is part of the native stats. It's definitely doable from the log files, though, so a v2 thing rather than a v1.
Re: Who is the elfiest/bashiest etc. of all?
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 9:01 pm
by lawastooshort
Okay! So regarding the scoring I PMed you about, I asked and got this reply:
Showoff and punishment were my babies originally - feel free to grab them fella

I'll pm you the spreadsheet i use for working the results out if it'll help you

(also - I was going to say I hoped that was what it meant because otherwise poor Gorgonzola must have been the single unluckiest player in the history of the league

)
Re: Who is the elfiest/bashiest etc. of all?
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 10:40 pm
by Gandalf
Those scoring systems are...
Showoff Shield i.e. elfiness
Points are given as follows:-
Offensive TD 10 points
Defensive TD 15 points
One Turner TD and extra 10 points
Interceptions 3 points
Catches 3 points
Passes (successful ones) 3 points
Tackles 3 points
Dodges 2 points
GFI 3 points
Punishment Prize i.e. bashiness
Simply put the more damage you cause the more you score with points given out as follows:-
Knock Outs 5 points
Badly Hurt 10 points
Miss Next Game 15 points
Stat Bust or Niggle 20 points
Death 25 points
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My initial thoughts on these.
I think I would want to add Stunned in there too, maybe 2 or 3 points for that?
I don't know about categorizing the different sorts of touchdowns. Might be possible... I suppose. I'd probably give more points for interceptions as they are rarer & harder. Maybe 1 point for an unsuccessful pass because, y'know, it shows willing, and it's not always the passer's fault if it's not completed is it?
If we had a Punchbag Prize, maybe we could just reverse the Punishment Price point list, but adding another category.... maybe +1 point per armour roll made? That would cover being crowd-surfed, wizarded, blocks where armour roll was passed...?
Re: Who is the elfiest/bashiest etc. of all?
Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 1:37 pm
by lawastooshort
I wouldn't want more than 1 point for a stun.
Perhaps the offered spreadsheet can help with categorising touchdowns - although I mentioned to you that the ukbbl uploaded can determine whether touchdowns are offensive or defensive.
I'm okay with the punchbag idea, especially if we can have a fouling award.
Interceptions are harder and rarer, but they are more luck based than anything else, if you get how I mean.