Parma-Violence Cup - A suggestion

[DaigaroOgami]

Percy had a vision.

We're playing a Cup where you get into it by being super violent right? Why don't we elaborate on that...

Well, how about we adjust the scoring slightly for the cup matchs by adding on the casualties inflicted to the final score to see who progresses to the next round?

So the match might be a 1-1 draw; but Team A got 2 casualties and Team B got 1, so the final score (for progression purposes) is 3-2 to Team A, who progress through to the next round of the cup. Keeps the theme going and encourages more violence, and changes things up slightly; only for the cup mind.

Thoughts?

[id3nt1ty]

As commissioner I feel I should point out that I don't think it's acceptable for anyone other than myself to be making changes to our format to benefit their own teams performance in either the league or the cup.

Secondly there are no draws in the cup.

But in general I like the idea. How about one point for casualties, two points for a death?

[DaigaroOgami]

That'd be too much on luck; I was just using the Cup qualifier to add a bit 'more' while we could; there aren't many other stats you could do this with really.

And yes Mr DrunkWithPower, you would get the final say. I would like to point out to you, like you pointed out to me already, that the puny Orc's aren't even as violent as a bunch of half naked women, so how could it benefit them?

[id3nt1ty]

You just leveled up two Block Black Orcs with Mighty Blow, so I don't expect it to stay that way for long.

I wasn't worried about the final say, just not engineering the season for my own advantage...

[Gandalf]

Adding on points for casualties could make the match a draw.

Speaking selfishly, having failed to qualify for the last 2 cups and a likely candidate to not qualify for this one either, I wouldn't want to be penalized yet further for having a team that didn't really match up with the theme of the cup...

[id3nt1ty]

In the event of a draw due to violence, I propose the winner be the person with the most touchdowns.

That's fair enough.

[Raveen]

I'm not sure how this could be worked in Blood Bowl, the cup is setup as a knockout and it'll only register winning the game by touchdowns.

[Raveen]

Also I've quite enjoyed coaching utterly I'll suited teams to cup victories. I like the idea of the Carrions promotion Chanelf and the Rock-knockers doing adverts for Smirking Soda.

[Gandalf]

Blood Bowl is about scoring touchdowns. The means to achieving that can vary, and I don't mind giving out awards, setting cup qualification etc. by other statistics but I don't find the idea of changing the core aspect of it to something else an appealing one.

Also, what Rav said.

[DaigaroOgami]

Yeah, blood bowl is, that what the league is for.

This was a suggestion for the cup to make it a bit different without doing anything too drastic.

Just saw an opportunity to do something slightly different while we had the chance; like I said, there's not many other stats we could do something like this with. Its a proper reward for playing bash. Seems silly to still win the bash cup by who scored the most.

And the BB client wouldn't make a difference, it a bit like we use BB to track stats, etc.

[Gandalf]

Seems silly to still win the bash cup by who scored the most.

The catching cup wasn't won by who caught the most, the knock-downs suffered cup wasn't won by being knocked down etc.

Rav's practical point was that a cup is a specific thing in the client, that among doesn't allow for draws, and importantly adds on overtime if required. So you'd have to sacrifice overtime, play games as league games and arrange manual overtime which is nontrivial and not entirely & faithfully possible to recreate.

As an alternative suggestion, for the future, then we could do a league where if you are equal on number of points, casualties caused separates teams, not touchdown difference.

[id3nt1ty]

We could not use the client cup system, organise our own cup matches and rule that there is no overtime... we'd just have to figure out how to handle a "draw."

But, everyone in the cup would have to agree to the rules I guess, otherwise it's business as usual.

[DaigaroOgami]

The catching cup wasn't won by who caught the most because that wouldn't be practical, the same with the other stats. AGAIN I refer you to the point I make about this being one of the only stats that you could implement this with, that's why I suggested it.

And like ID said, we're all intelligent fellows, I'm sure we could arrange a way to still have a cup competition and make arrangements for draws. We don't HAVE to use the client do we?

[Gandalf]

The catching cup wasn't won by who caught the most because that wouldn't be practical, the same with the other stats. AGAIN I refer you to the point I make about this being one of the only stats that you could implement this with, that's why I suggested it.

I don't see why you can't use other statistics. If you're looking for numbers that are vaguely similar to the number of touchdowns then passes, casualties, catches would all work, you could make it 2 passes = 1 touchdown or whatever, there are loads of possibilities. I don't like any of them.

And like ID said, we're all intelligent fellows, I'm sure we could arrange a way to still have a cup competition and make arrangements for draws. We don't HAVE to use the client do we?

I like the possibility of overtime, it's a large part of what makes the cup different to the league. To have to abandon it to implement this would be another negative point for me.

You seem a bit aggravated, I'm not trying to annoy you, just offering my thoughts as you asked for them. Peace & love.

[lawastooshort]

I think if you wanted to have a side competition with funny rules then fine, but this has to be supplementary and with stated conditions before anyone signs up. Otherwise it's nit for me, Clive.